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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: dlcampbell@×××.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 07:56:50
Message-Id: 1369554998.2884.7.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697) by "Michał Górny"
1 El dom, 26-05-2013 a las 08:55 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
2 [...]
3 > > As far as resisting systemd, why is that so bad? Vertical integration is
4 > > generally a bad idea with the sole exception of when your use case(s)
5 > > line up perfectly with the ivory tower and you need all of the offered
6 > > features. If Gentoo falls to systemd, there will literally be no
7 > > Linux-based distros left to prevent it from taking over, and as a result
8 > > Linux-based systems will become more and more tightly integrated,
9 > > killing the choice that Gentoo truly stands for and homogenizing everything.
10 >
11 > It is bad because ebuilds are not place to put politics into. If you
12 > want to become dev, you should understand this. We are supposed to be
13 > serious people. Serious people don't break user systems or refuse to
14 > support them in the name of manifesting their wishes.
15 >
16 > It is bad because it's not systemd that's losing, it's Gentoo. Except
17 > for the fact that there's just a few people that take Gentoo seriously
18 > these days.
19 >
20 > Upstreams clearly show that they don't care. We can either sit
21 > in the corner and resent, or we can work on improving the situation.
22 > And going on flamewars or manifestations doesn't really improve
23 > anything, you should know that by now.
24 >
25
26 It's also bad because you are affecting to a lot of people that can/want
27 to use systemd, forcing you to have semi-usable setups because of your
28 personal preferences.