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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@×××××.com>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:54:26
Message-Id: 200802010854.23037.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ? by Natanael Copa
1 On Friday 01 February 2008, Natanael Copa wrote:
2 > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:46 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
3 > > On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote:
4 > > > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
5 > > > > 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote:
6 > > > > > now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils
7 > > > > > and integrated straight into coreutils,
8 > > > > > perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone.
9 > > > > > current debianutils is part of "system" and provides:
10 > > > > > - installkernel
11 > > > > > - run-parts
12 > > > > > - tempfile
13 > > > > > - savelog
14 > > > > > - mkboot
15 > > > > > do people consider these things critical ?
16 > > > > > i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these
17 > > > > > ...
18 > > > >
19 > > > > 'equery d debianutils' gives me
20 > > > >
21 > > > > app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils)
22 > > > > app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU?
23 > > > > sys-apps/debianutils) sys-apps/mktemp-1.5
24 > > > > (>=sys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2)
25 > > > >
26 > > > > The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important.
27 > > > > I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ?
28 > > > > Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too.
29 > > >
30 > > > savelog is used here to rotate logs from a cron job. I had a user
31 > > > rewriting the whole script the other week so it works without either
32 > > > perl or debianutils. (he replaced 80 lines perl with 7 lines POSIX
33 > > > shell code using sed, awk)
34 > > >
35 > > > I can create a bug on this so we get rid of both perl and debianutils
36 > > > dependency for app-admin/sysklogd. (great for embedded)
37 > >
38 > > i dont quite follow ... savelog is already a POSIX script and i dont see
39 > > it executing perl ...
40 >
41 > The /etc/cron.daily/syslog.cron executes both savelog
42 > and /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles - which is a perl script.
43
44 oh, so you're looking to replace a script syslog provides rather than the
45 savelog script
46
47 sure, i'd open a bug enhancement request on the topic
48 -mike

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