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From: Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@×××××.com>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:18:46
Message-Id: 1201868321.23116.4.camel@nc.nor.wtbts.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ? by Mike Frysinger
1 On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:46 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
2 > On Thursday 31 January 2008, Natanael Copa wrote:
3 > > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
4 > > > 080128 Mike Frysinger wrote:
5 > > > > now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils
6 > > > > and integrated straight into coreutils,
7 > > > > perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone.
8 > > > > current debianutils is part of "system" and provides:
9 > > > > - installkernel
10 > > > > - run-parts
11 > > > > - tempfile
12 > > > > - savelog
13 > > > > - mkboot
14 > > > > do people consider these things critical ?
15 > > > > i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these ...
16 > > >
17 > > > 'equery d debianutils' gives me
18 > > >
19 > > > app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils)
20 > > > app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? sys-apps/debianutils)
21 > > > sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 (>=sys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2)
22 > > >
23 > > > The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important.
24 > > > I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ?
25 > > > Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too.
26 > >
27 > > savelog is used here to rotate logs from a cron job. I had a user
28 > > rewriting the whole script the other week so it works without either
29 > > perl or debianutils. (he replaced 80 lines perl with 7 lines POSIX shell
30 > > code using sed, awk)
31 > >
32 > > I can create a bug on this so we get rid of both perl and debianutils
33 > > dependency for app-admin/sysklogd. (great for embedded)
34 >
35 > i dont quite follow ... savelog is already a POSIX script and i dont see it
36 > executing perl ...
37
38 The /etc/cron.daily/syslog.cron executes both savelog
39 and /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles - which is a perl script.
40
41 > -mike
42
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