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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:47:45 -0500 |
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Gordon Pettey <petteyg359@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> |
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> > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> > > Stop getting lost in the weeds!!!! |
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> > > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about |
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> > > that! |
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> > > LET ME CLARIFY.... |
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> > > When using -C, portage SHOULD warn for dependencies like it does |
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> > > for profile and set packages, PERIOD. NOTHING to do with -c vs -C. |
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> > > When using -c the output should say in layman's terms, |
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> > > "Not removing package A because it is a dependency" |
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> > William, I'm not sure if you're aware of how package managers work |
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> > but checking reverse dependencies of a package takes significant |
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> > amount of time. |
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> for x in $(eix -I --only-names); do time equery g $x > /dev/null; done |
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> The only single package on my system that took more than 2 seconds |
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> total time was gcc. The idea that that is too much time to add to |
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> emerge -c or -C, which in my experience already takes multiple |
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> seconds to run anyway is kind of silly. |
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IMHO anyone complaining about time taking for dependency resolution |
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etc. They should spend THEIR time writing stuff in a real native |
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language for speed. |
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The difference I see with jem[1] vs java-config, is ridiculous. |
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Sometimes I merge hundreds of java packages. All those milliseconds add |
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up. Not to mention resources, ram, CPU, and all drains your battery... |
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If aspects of portage were done in C or C++, or maybe even Go. There |
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would be substantial performance improvements. The existing python code |
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can remain. Python can load and call functions from C/C++ DSO. And vice |
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versa, calling Python code from C/C++. I would say C vs C++ but that is |
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up to others. |
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Put my time where my mouth is... Well I did, its called jem. What is |
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jem? Its java-config ported to C. I would be looking to port more of |
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Gentoo's tools to C for longevity and speed. Not speed of development, |
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but speed for everyone else. Instead I am doing C for other projects. |
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1. https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/jem |
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P.S. |
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jem does need a bit more work to replace java-config entirely. Its |
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designed to not be Gentoo specific. There is little interest from |
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Gentoo, much less outside. Thus its more a case study than anything |
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benefiting anyone including myself. I will further it as I have |
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interest and time permits. Still have a few more defects to address. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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