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On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 11:01:02AM -0700, Jeremiah Mahler wrote: |
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> > re: where to focus on, thats not my domain, however documentation is ALWAYS |
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> > appreciated (developers hate documenting things ;). As for the new ebuilds, |
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> > you can submit them to bugzilla, just dont expect them to be added to the |
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> > system before 1.4 is released. |
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> Q: Can I help, can I help |
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> A: Sure, you can take out the trash and scrub the toilets. |
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And what the problem? If you don't like the way the developers dish out |
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duties on their OS, don't use it. Developing ebuilds that might make a |
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release that isn't coming out in the next month sounds generous to me. |
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> > > I havent checked, but is gentoo-core still closed? |
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> > yes, it is. |
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> Ivory tower? |
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Their prerogative. |
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> As a user of Gentoo, I feel like a child whose parent has to double |
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> check everything I do. And in the same way that the child |
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> becomes frustrated with their parent because they place no trust |
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> in the child, I am frustrated with Gentoo because it places no |
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> trust in the users. |
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Maybe you should maintain a large collection of ebuilds outside of their |
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tree or maybe maintain your own stable branch of Gentoo to _build_ the |
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trust instead complaining that you can be trusted with no proof (I assume |
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what you have written here is all you have communicated to the |
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developers). |
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> Among all the distributions I am familiar with, Gentoo is, |
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> in my opinion, the best as far as placing trust in it's users. |
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> But Gentoo is also, in my opinion, far from what I imagine as ideal. |
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So they don't trust you, and they trust you? As far as I am concerned, |
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until you have CVS commit access, they don't trust you. But that is ok. |
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Because I implicitly trust them. Well, I am not sure I do, hence Gentoo |
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runs in VMWare for me). I want them to save me from myself. gentoo-core |
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can't break! |
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At the end of the day, it is their project. They ask you to submit bug |
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reports (with patches if you like) and to test. To do all the things a |
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developer does. They just tell you they would like to look at the quality |
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of your submissions before they are commited. |
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Why aren't you thanking God that is the case? You should be afraid to ask |
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for commit access on a source tree (which I assume gentoo-core would |
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imply). |
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Read this: |
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http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/01/31/Big_Scary_Daemons.html |
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Thanks. |
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-- |
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Evan Read |
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http://eread.freeshell.org |
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"The future comes 60 minutes an hour no matter who you are or what you |
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do." |
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The Screwtape Letters - C.S. Lewis |
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