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On 10/20/2013 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>>> On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: |
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>>>> On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>>>>> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: |
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>>>>>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>>>>>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: |
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>>>>>>>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever |
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>>>>>>>>> from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>> It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to |
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>>>>>>>> back to work on it together with community. |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>>>> * low quality |
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>>>>>>>> low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many |
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>>>>>>>> lower-quality ebuilds in the tree. Or do you mean low |
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>>>>>>>> quality of something else? Anyway, it is fixable too. |
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>>>>>>>> Just let's start work on it. |
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>>>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>> I agree. |
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>>>>>> |
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>>>>>>> It's better to work with the user community and join |
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>>>>>>> efforts than having yet-another-shiny overlay. |
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>>>>>> |
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>>>>>> Gamerlay is not related to the games team and this thread is |
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>>>>>> not about gamerlay which is a project that has failed. I have |
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>>>>>> zero interest to work on gamerlay. It would have to start |
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>>>>>> with removing direct commit access of users. |
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>>>> |
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>>>>> This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. |
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>>>>> If you intend to make the game overlay and team a |
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>>>>> developer-only thing you are doing a great work. |
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>>>> |
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>>>> |
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>>>> I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first |
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>>>> post. Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct |
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>>>> commit access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not |
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>>>> sure what you mean with "developer-only"). |
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>>>> |
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>>> |
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>>> I was mainly referring to your way to exluding this community which |
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>>> is already working on the gaming side of Gentoo. You shouldn't |
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>>> ignore active contributors because their ebuilds happen to be of |
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>>> lower quality. |
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>> Thanks for your opinion on this. It's nice to see that my efforts of |
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>> (unrequested) reviews on bugzilla, overlays, forums and sunrise makes |
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>> you say that I ignore contributors. Especially those contributors who |
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>> respond to or even request reviews (many don't even respond to |
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>> unrequested reviews). |
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>> |
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>> Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really |
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>> interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that? |
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>> I don't think this discussion leads anywhere. |
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> |
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> He's just warning you not to ignore the existing community in your |
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> attempt to create a new community project. It is good advice; take it |
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> that way instead of responding to it as negative criticism. |
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> I think it might be a tough sell to get existing gamerlay contributors |
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> to switch to this new "official" contribution process. If you started |
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> working within that community, you may have better luck persuading |
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> people to get on board. If you have no interest in doing that, just be |
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> aware that you are excluding a significant base of contributors. |
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Thanks for explaining what I was trying to say :) Seems like there are |
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people who understand what I am saying and I am not talking nonsense :) |
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Regards, |
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Markos Chandras |
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