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From: Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o>
To: Gentoo Dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:04:26
Message-Id: CAJ0EP43G-PXSCg5As=+juYkzFor5e=thMEzP3b=-LiOOuErpZw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository by hasufell
1 On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:
2 > On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
3 >> On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote:
4 >>> On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
5 >>>> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote:
6 >>>>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
7 >>>>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
8 >>>>>>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever
9 >>>>>>>> from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there
10 >>>>>>>
11 >>>>>>> It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to
12 >>>>>>> back to work on it together with community.
13 >>>>>>>
14 >>>>>>>> * low quality
15 >>>>>>> low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many
16 >>>>>>> lower-quality ebuilds in the tree. Or do you mean low
17 >>>>>>> quality of something else? Anyway, it is fixable too.
18 >>>>>>> Just let's start work on it.
19 >>>>>>>
20 >>>>>> I agree.
21 >>>>>
22 >>>>>> It's better to work with the user community and join
23 >>>>>> efforts than having yet-another-shiny overlay.
24 >>>>>
25 >>>>>
26 >>>>> Gamerlay is not related to the games team and this thread is
27 >>>>> not about gamerlay which is a project that has failed. I have
28 >>>>> zero interest to work on gamerlay. It would have to start
29 >>>>> with removing direct commit access of users.
30 >>>
31 >>>> This is not a great way to invite more users to participate.
32 >>>> If you intend to make the game overlay and team a
33 >>>> developer-only thing you are doing a great work.
34 >>>
35 >>>
36 >>> I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first
37 >>> post. Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct
38 >>> commit access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not
39 >>> sure what you mean with "developer-only").
40 >>>
41 >>
42 >> I was mainly referring to your way to exluding this community which
43 >> is already working on the gaming side of Gentoo. You shouldn't
44 >> ignore active contributors because their ebuilds happen to be of
45 >> lower quality.
46 >
47 >
48 > Thanks for your opinion on this. It's nice to see that my efforts of
49 > (unrequested) reviews on bugzilla, overlays, forums and sunrise makes
50 > you say that I ignore contributors. Especially those contributors who
51 > respond to or even request reviews (many don't even respond to
52 > unrequested reviews).
53 >
54 > Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really
55 > interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that?
56 >
57 > I don't think this discussion leads anywhere.
58
59 He's just warning you not to ignore the existing community in your
60 attempt to create a new community project. It is good advice; take it
61 that way instead of responding to it as negative criticism.
62
63 I think it might be a tough sell to get existing gamerlay contributors
64 to switch to this new "official" contribution process. If you started
65 working within that community, you may have better luck persuading
66 people to get on board. If you have no interest in doing that, just be
67 aware that you are excluding a significant base of contributors.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>