Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Micha?? G?rny <mgorny@g.o> schrieb:

> > I don't want to repeat all the arguments, why these Windows-imitator
> > guys are completely wrong, anymore. (IMHO already been said in this
> > thread).
>
> Yes, having a single locations for all applications is so-windows. We
> should go the other way then, and create a separate prefix for every
> application. I wonder why we removed that awesome /usr/X11R6.

I was talking about other things, like giving up the typical
unix-style separation of subsystems, all the bloating happening
in certain DE's and then pulling down that bloat to the system
level (just starting w/ dbus)

> > If upstream really wants to stick in that silly chance, it's time for
> > a fork. We're already allocating about 20..30hrs per week beginning
> > with 2012/2 for such a project in our resource plan. This stupidity
> > can become really dangerous thousands of systems around the world,
> > so it needs to be stopped.
>
> Wow, an enterprise fork taking 20-30 hrs per week to reimplement hacks
> necessary for running applications randomly spread over filesystems?

This is just our donation, I'm hoping others will join in.
For the actual development, half of the resources should be
fine, but testing dozens of uncommon scenarios will eat up
a multiple of that.

> > BTW: the original argument (AFAIK) is that moving everything to
> > /usr should somehow make maintenance easier. Well, how actually ?
> > Perhaps for people who are too lazy to backup a few more directories ?
> > Silly.
>
> Enjoy sharing those few more directories over NFS.

Yes, what's the big deal ? Done that with thousands of nodes.

> > Actually, at this point, I'd raise the question why not dropping
> > /usr instead (in little steps). The impact is practically the
> > same (well, replaces the risk of unbootable system by the risk
> > of filling up separated / filesystems) but would remove an
> > then obsolete additional directory. ;-O
>
> That's because people would like to get rid of additional directories
> in /, not introduce additional ones.

Aha. Then why not also moving /home, /etc and /var to /usr, too ? ;-o
(hmm, some mindless jerks really could pick up that silly idea...)


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