Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: new global USE flag gtk3

[Tom Wijsman]

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:26:18 +0200
Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote:

>
> On 20/02/14 10:47, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:40 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >> On 20/02/14 09:44, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 07:55 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >>>> On 20/02/14 00:23, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> Following up to today's QA meeting: The gtk3 USE flag is used by
> >>>>> 27 packages, so I suggest making it a global flag:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> gtk3 - Add support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit) version
> >>>>> 3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ulrich
> >>>> that would suggest it's fine to use, and is anything but
> >>>> temporary
> >>>>
> >>>> -1 from here
> >>>>
> >>> MATE desktop (which I hope to bring in to Portage soon) can be
> >>> built against gtk+ 2 or gtk+ 3, and upstream supports doing both,
> >>> so +1 from me.  Just because gtk+ 3 is the latest, does not mean
> >>> it's the greatest, and I really wish people would realize that
> >>> newest != bestest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Then you pick whatever is best supported for MATE, and ship it
> >> using that. Later when they have completed their support for
> >> GTK+-3, and it's the best supported, you ship that. It's not
> >> rocket science.
> >>
> > OR, since I'm the maintainer, I decide that I'm willing to deal with
> > both, instead of you telling me that I need to pick one or the
> > other. Upstream says both are supported and viable, and I'm willing
> > to deal with the headaches.  Just because you're unwilling doesn't
> > mean others aren't.  kthx.
> >
> >
>
> Bye bye distribution level consistency :-(
>
> It's sad that few stubborn developers can do that.
>
> - Samuli
>

"'Ey! Have you heard about it. Gentoo doesn't provide X with support
for Y, then what are their USE flags even for; what a shame, ..."

If people want to support and use multiple things, let them do so. It is
pretty much what Gentoo and its philosophy are about; which somewhat
can be summarized as providing choices such that we fit the users'
need, and not force our one true way upon them...

Greetings from someone who runs GNOME 3 and MATE simultaneously; you can
intentionally break it, but why would you? It takes away our happiness.
On the other hand, there's the part where you want to break it for a
reason, perhaps for your happiness; but then I'd like to hear why.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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