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From: George Shapovalov <george@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ebuild Janitor Project
Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 21:24:30
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Ebuild Janitor Project by David Nielsen
Hey guys.

As I was reading through last few day's postings I realised, there is certain 
important part missing in the picture of streamlined/distributed ebuild 
processing system mentioned earlier. That is of the place where users could 
actively interact and discuss the ebuilds thay submitted and get the fixes 
rolling as discussion brings our shortcomings... Looks like this project 
nicely fits to this role ;).
Well, there is this:
so I kept forums at the back of my mind, but  looks like the forums you setup 
are trying to keep more to the point. So this is not really a duplication 
after all...

Now, on the integration issue, which is quite essential, as was already 
mentioned. The way I see it, distributed ebuild processing requires:
1. some central depository with automated submission system doing at least 
some basic checks (multiple access/stability levels are already in portage, 
but that might need some further ratification)
2. strong voting/feedback system (think gentoo-stable/stats), looped back to 
ebuild level adjutment (some automatic some manual).
3.(new!) the way for users to be getting feedback on their ebuilds and be able 
to discuss related stuf with each other. Apparently best done in user-land, 
by the project such as the one you initiated. Should really do a lot in terms 
of increasing overall quality of submitted ebuilds.

Ok, this by no means should be considered as detailed to any level or even 
setting any course of action, just trying to throw the overall structure into 
the mix, so that it gets registered and remembered later when need arises :), 
especially since there was a question where this project could fit ;). 
For those who did not follow related discussion few weeks ago, some more 
details on pp 1 and 2 are available in #1523, however outdated by all the 
changes that happened since and pending redesign which should follow soon 
after the internal reorganisation (mentioned in recent GWN) completion.


On Sunday 11 May 2003 14:01, David Nielsen wrote:
> Okay, our guidelines clearly state that when a fixed ebuild has been > confirmed by two other people as working, we submit it to bugzilla. All > the ebuild janitors do is make sure that the ebuilds use the USE flags > to the maximum of their potential, and of course generally clean them up > as there's a lot of stuff in some older ebuilds that is no longer valid. > Your mail clearly showed that you had not read those guidelines.. > - Lovechild
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