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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFI: A better workflow for github pull requests
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:02:57
Message-Id: 1442253758.892.36.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFI: A better workflow for github pull requests by Andrew Savchenko
1 El lun, 14-09-2015 a las 00:19 +0300, Andrew Savchenko escribió:
2 [...]
3 > Yes, but as long as choice of core components and infrastructure is
4 > free one. Read Gentoo Social Contract:
5 >
6 > https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/philosophy/social-contract.html
7 >
8 > "However, Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software or
9 > metadata unless it conforms to the GNU General Public License, the
10 > GNU Lesser General Public License, the Creative Commons -
11 > Attribution/Share Alike or some other license approved by the Open
12 > Source Initiative (OSI)."
13 >
14 > What actually happens now is that several individual are trying to
15 > undermine this concept and to tie Gentoo to the proprietary
16 > metadata. And some point this dependence will become irreversible.
17 > It is a pain for me to see that several developers under disguise of
18 > "community" and "integration" are trying hard to make that happen,
19 > step by step.
20 >
21 > Best regards,
22 > Andrew Savchenko
23
24 I completely disagree with you pointing to some concrete people and
25 accusing them about they trying to break the social contract. I see no
26 proof at all to support your accusation, and I think you should refrain
27 from doing that kind of accusations without any base. If you have any
28 kind of "proof" supporting that accusations, please explain them
29 briefly, otherwise this looks just like trolling to me :/
30
31 The only thing I see here is some people trying to mirror github and
32 bugzilla, and that will likely help a lot of people (like me) that
33 don't use github, letting people that need their features to work with
34 other people that don't need or don't want to use it. What is the
35 problem then? :| Why people tend to think that others have obscure
36 intentions or similar? Isn't much easier to think that all people here
37 are contributing for free for the sake of improving things? Why do we
38 need to be so rude when discussing things on mailing lists or IRC? I am
39 sure that if we could meet in the "real life", face to face, we would
40 see that there are no conspiracies and no obscure intentions and most
41 of the arguments come from misunderstandings, overreactions and similar
42 :|