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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o, Gentoo Development <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:43:36
Message-Id: 1512337399.22374.30.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists by Dirkjan Ochtman
1 W dniu nie, 03.12.2017 o godzinie 21∶30 +0100, użytkownik Dirkjan
2 Ochtman napisał:
3 > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > 1. Posting to gentoo-dev@ and gentoo-project@ mailing lists will be
6 > > initially restricted to active Gentoo developers.
7 > >
8 > > 1a. Subscription (reading) and archives will still be open.
9 > >
10 > > 1b. Active Gentoo contributors will be able to obtain posting access
11 > > upon being vouched for by an active Gentoo developer.
12 > >
13 >
14 > On the face of it, I like this proposal. On the other hand, wouldn't it be
15 > better if we just had more active list moderators? That is, moderators who
16 > move problematic user's posts to moderated by default, and then withhold
17 > the specific posts if necessary?
18
19 I don't think this is really technically feasible. I don't know if mlmmj
20 has the specific feature you're asking for, and even if it did,
21 moderation with mlmmj is practically impossible to use. Even for low-
22 traffic channel like gentoo-dev-announce@ it's not working well.
23
24 >
25 > 2. A new mailing list 'gentoo-expert' will be formed to provide
26 > > a discussion medium for expert Gentoo users and developers.
27 > >
28 > > 2a. gentoo-expert will have open posting access like gentoo-dev has now.
29 > >
30 >
31 > I'm not sure this will be worth it. Who exactly do you think is the
32 > audience for this mailing list? What is the goal? How is it different from
33 > existing mailing lists?
34
35 The audience is expect users who usually don't need basic support
36 but instead want to discuss the development of Gentoo and want to have
37 some impact on where it goes.
38
39 The main goal is to be able to restore more developers to gentoo-dev@,
40 and be able to focus it on feedback and reviews.
41
42 In other words, the goal is that if the attitude on gentoo-expert
43 becomes impossible to bear, the developers can unsubscribe from that
44 list without actually losing the ability to give feedback on important
45 Gentoo issues.
46
47 >
48 > Cheers,
49 >
50 > Dirkjan
51
52 --
53 Best regards,
54 Michał Górny

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