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On Sat, 23 May 2015 13:24:11 +0700 C Bergström wrote: |
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> On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> > Rich, |
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> > If you are thinking of a FOSS email provider. Maybe investigate Fastmail? |
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> > They use postfix and cyrus. And they also handle a lot of the development of the latter. |
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> > Not sure if they would fit in with the rest, but I would trust them sooner then Google. |
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> Trust? LOL - If by trust you mean the government can man-in-the-middle |
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> attack them easily - then sure.. gmail always uses encryption.. does |
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> fastmail force that as well? Google has a much stronger means to push |
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> back short term and long term against government spying (snowden). |
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Oh, really? If you have read materials showed by Snowden, then you |
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should know that Google is already hooked to its deps by (at least) |
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all interested us agencies. They have internal encryption? So what? |
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They just gave up keys or provided direct access to depcryption |
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stations or by whatever other means granted access to demanding us |
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agencies. |
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> fastmail would have to comply just the same and if you go back in |
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> history - you'll see other providers who didn' t comply and the only |
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> outcome was for them to go out of business... (happened once?) |
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> social contract shouldn't be a religious contract - It's not like I |
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> ever suggested we use something which isn't blessed by the pope. I |
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> guess I should just be quiet since everyone has their own religion... |
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Its not a religion, its a protection of project's freedom. If you |
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don't care about freedom, that's your own personal right. But this |
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doesn't mean that other people must gave up their freedom for the |
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same of convenience of others. |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |