Re: [gentoo-dev] LibPNG Problems :(

[Aadi Deshpande]

Not only did the png upgrade work for me ( very well after my initial scare, thanks Spider ), but it was your option to upgrade the png libs.  
I picked Gentoo because it let's me stay on the bleeding edge, and there are consequences that you pay for at the bleeding edge, consequences that I'm willing to live with, but apparently you are not. 
There are rationales for why this was required and I think Spider expressed them well.  No one wants to waste anyone's time, but that is a side effect of libpng not of Gentoo or it's maintainers.
You may have opinions about the state of open-source and free software, but I hope they're not based solely on this one experience and strictly in a Windows vs. Linux mentality.  Every OS experiences some level of DLL hell and Windows has more of it's own fair share.  I look only to the sad IDE that VS6.0 was to think back to my own experiences. 
Frankly, I don't understand why anyone would pick Gentoo if they're not willing to put the effort forth.  You want a fairly optimized, well maintained system that doesn't let you get into trouble, pick Mandrake, pick Debian, pick any of the binary only distributions.  
Not to mention that they're all much more mature than Gentoo, having been through many revisions apiece.  Remember, <b>you</b> wanted in on the ground floor.
Sorry, enough ranting. 
 
 
  Milos Negovanovic <milosn@××××××××××××.nz> wrote: 
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:08:10 +0000
"Eugenia Loli-Queru" wrote:

> Sorry, this solution is NOT acceptable. This pretty much says that I
> have rebuild most of my graphics apps, and possibly X (which I
> recompiled it just yesterday anyway during my upgrade to 1.1a). This
> is just WAY too time consuming, and, simply put, it doesn't worth the
> trouble. I would expect Gentoo LLC to find a better solutions for its
> users, especially if this error was not a user error, but the
> maintener's. Asking poor cpu cycle users to recompile everything, it
> is just not so good, don't you think?
>
> WHY this "dll hell" had happened anyway? Is there not another, easier
> way to fix this, by downloading a new libpng or something else? It
> seems that _a lot_ of people just got on the same problem, if I judge
> from the number of emails regarding the new libpng problems that
> breaks compatibility.
>
> So, who's problem that is? The person who did the ebuilds? the person
> who did other depended ebuilds? libpng's? Mine for want to run Linux
> and in fact ran into dll hell? :(
>
> /me goes back to Windows, MacOSX and BeOS. The Free/Open software is
> not there yet for the end user (forget the fact that I am actually a
> developer - Linux is only free if you have a lot of free time to spare
> - I don't).
>
> Thank you all for the answers so far, in the last 2 weeks. I really
> appreciated your help. Please do not see the above as whining, these
> are just my honest thoughts about the free software as a whole today
> (I mean, when you put all these individual projects to work together
> under the umbrella of an OS - any OS). Not very well co-ordinated. :(
>
> Regards,
> Eugenia
>
>
> >Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] LibPNG Problems :(
> >From: Matthew Kennedy
> >To: gentoo-dev@g.o
> >Date: 17 Apr 2002 03:04:43 -0500
> >Reply-To: gentoo-dev@g.o
> >
> >Howdy,
> >
> >On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 02:20, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote:
> > > http://www.eugenia.co.uk/snapshot1.png
> > > You are seeing Konqueror with no icons, the actual error messages
> > > on the right hand side, and also my libpngs on the terminal above,
> > > as they live on
> > > /usr/lib.
> >
> >This problem and it's solution was discussed a few times on the
> >gentoo-user list a while back. Hope the URLs to them help.
> >
> >http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-April/019211.html
> >http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-April/020543.html
> >http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-April/020182.html
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >--
> >Matthew Kennedy
> >Gentoo Linux Developer
>
>
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Hello,

i must say that instructions for updating libpng worked smoothly (for me
that is). Also majority of complaints posted here come from KDE people
and are related to simple fact that they have to recompile bigger part
fo their systems and that they dont like it ( hehe i wouldnt either :)
). 

Milos
(i am not gentoo developer, just casual visitor)
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