Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

[William Hubbs]

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote:
> > if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like
> > IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit if they do
> > emerge --depclean before they emerge gentoo-oldnet.
> >
> > Also, (although I don't really care about this much because we tell people
> > not to do it), folks who set USE="-* foo bar bas" in their make.conf would
> > get hit immediately with this solution.
> >
> > Am I missing something? It just seems like this is putting off the
> > emerge command people will need to run for a while.
>
> It seems to me like network support needs to be some kind of default
> for Gentoo.  A USE default is probably one of the least intrusive ways
> to do that - and we can always have an ewarn in the event both are
> suppressed (those who override all USE defaults should be on the
> lookout for trouble).
>
> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
> support by default.  I'd rather not do it as part of the system set,
> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it
> is still override-able.

If we did this as part of @system, it would have to be a virtual imo,
since there are several things in the tree that can manage networks
(openrc[newnet], dhcpcd, wicd, nm, etc), but this is a topic for another
thread.

For OpenRC-0.12, I will put in the +oldnet use flag as suggested
previously if we go ahead with the split.

William