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On 11/01/2014 18:52, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 18:15:09 |
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> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> napisał(a): |
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>> A far better method from a user point of view is to install the linguas |
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>> the user explicitly asked for. Your proposal as worded will be taken at |
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>> first glance to mean "install all linguas, but not XX" as most users |
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>> won't see the MASK portion and forget to flip the logic around in their |
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>> head. |
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> As said on the other mail, I think we could just make portage |
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> implicitly convert LINGUAS into INSTALL_MASK. That is, use the old |
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> variable and give it a bit of new behavior. |
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Do you mean retain LINGUAS in make.conf and remove it from "emerge -p" |
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output? |
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I don't know much about how LINGUAS works behind the scenes, but you |
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seem to be proposing a scheme that works something like this: |
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1. User specifics what LINGUAS they want in make.conf |
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2. Portage magically and invisibly installs files only for that LINGUA |
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That seems a good approach, it unclutters emerge -p output [the amount |
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of clutter that causes, together with APACHE2_MODULES, CAMERAS, |
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PHP_MODULES etc is quite unbelievable] and gives the user what they |
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asked for. If you hide the negative logic in the implementation that is |
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double bonus |
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>> How much work is it to get native support for LINGUAS into all ebuilds? |
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>> That would be the intuitive place considering there is already USE flags |
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>> for LINGUAS. |
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> Honestly? I'm all limbs against LINGUAS in its current form. It's just |
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> extra dumb. |
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> We have basically two cases: |
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> 1. packages that make LINGUAS into USE flags and use them to control |
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> l10n. It's just useless extra work and extra rebuilds for locale |
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> change. |
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> 2. packages that respect LINGUAS implicitly. That is, install only some |
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> of the files silently and you don't even know which were enabled. |
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> install-mask provides a clean framework to strip linguas with |
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> binpackage friendliness potential. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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