Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

[Jakub Moc]

Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> No, it just shows that two different standards are applied and jakub (as
>> well as some others) do not wish for any discrimination.
>> If sunrise gets blocked with the argument "it's an overlay" then, by
>> logic, the Java overlay should get the same treatment, even if this is
>> stupid, unfair and stupid.
>
> Wow, you are incredibly good at dismissing the actual argument that many
> folks have raised against sunrise, and instead inserting the
> "waaaaaaahhhhhh!!! they aren't treating us the same!!!" argument.  In
> fact, there is no reason to be treated the same in this case.  The
> council decided that sunrise was to be suspended, which in my mind
> constitutes a total scorched earth policy with respect to the use of any
> sort of Gentoo infra in any way.  The council did not decide that the
> java overlay was to be suspended, ergo the java overlay can use Gentoo
> infra as a resource.


Frankly said, neither council nor devrel have any say in suspending
projects hosted outside of gentoo, be it sunrise, gentopia,
java-migration, java-experimental, BMG, or whatever else. You just can't
dictate unpaid people what are they going to do in their free time
(though some people would probably like to...) - so, please don't move
this debate off-topic.


>> I'm sorry if the sunrise-related decisions have negative influence on
>> other projects and I hope that these issues get sorted out soon.
>> Personally I find this debate silly, jokey and genstef have done
>> whatever they could to reach a compromise for sunrise without castrating
>> the project. If that isn't enough it starts to look to me like an attack
>> on the persons and not on the technical structure.
>
> Please, cut the bullshit and stop deflecting these arguments as a
> personal attack, which you *always* seem to do once an argument reaches
> a point that you have nothing meaningful to say.

So... sunrise has been suspended, moved to it's own domain, moved to
non-gentoo hardware - and some people still are not satisfied and need
to find something to annoy the bunch of people working on it. And, as
there's not much left, they take something really childish and
ridiculous, such as bugzilla keywords and status whiteboard, and run to
devrel to ask for an urgent decision? What's this, if not a personal thing?



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