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Chris Gianelloni ha scritto: |
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>On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 20:47 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote: |
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>>bob already know how to downgrade but he can't because his boss has |
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>>crashed its chair on his head and now he his at the hospital. |
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>>bad boss, bad world |
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>In your scenario, Bob is an Admin. If Bob were *my* admin and had not |
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>taken the time to read the ChangeLog for the package and not made |
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>changes on the test network before making them to the production |
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>network, Bob would be looking for a new job after that coffee. Also, if |
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>Bob were not smart enough to not stay with the stable portion of Gentoo, |
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>which is designed to not have feature loss and other such problems, but |
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>was instead using the "testing" branch on production servers, then Bob |
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>would be looking for a new job and I would be looking for a smarter |
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>administrator. |
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>The whole point is that if you are blindly upgrading *anything* that you |
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>rely on for day-to-day work, that really there is only one person to |
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>blame, and that is yourself. |
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Chris, |
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Really we are not speaking about me, I blindly make all kind of crappy |
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stuff but _**never**_ on production system. Seldom on backup of |
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production systems. I like the risk but not when it compromise other |
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person than me. |
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*The* whole points are |
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that there is no way of choose a set of features (via USE flag) and |
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expect that emerge keep updated my system obeying to my needs. |
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the stable/unstable stuff it's *not* a point what happen if upstream of |
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say "l7" goes away for six month? your latest stable version will *stop* |
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for six month. |
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Maybe iptables-1.3 must become stable before, and *ONLY* the people who |
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want "l7" must stop at 1.2.9 |
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* this * is * the * point * |
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Now you can say that it's easy or not, possible or impossible, you can |
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ever say do it yourself (but expect that I do it). |
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What you can*not* say is that is a stable/unstable problem, or that the |
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user must check before the user *will* check before he/she should not be |
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costrained to mess with its /etc/portage/package.mask for *this* kind of |
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stuff. |
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my apologies if that was not clear before, hoping that now it's better |
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explained |
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