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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: 1i5t5.duncan@×××.net
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:02:04
Message-Id: 20120831100109.3a527d37@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:12:53 +0000 (UTC)
2 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
3
4 > Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:46:21 -0400 as excerpted:
5 >
6 > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
7 > >> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:20 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
8 > >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
9 > >>> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:05:19 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
10 > >>> >>
11 > >>> >> keeping things in @system doesn't make much sense:
12 > >>> >> - there's a penalty (as noted in old threads)
13 > >>> >> - it isn't actually required at runtime, so it's bloat on
14 > >>> >> reduced systems
15 > >>> >
16 > >>> > I think it's practically the same as compiler.
17 > >>>
18 > >>> that isn't a bad view point, but for the purposes of this
19 > >>> discussion, i don't think it's relevant :)
20 > >>
21 > >> Will it be a better view point if I opened a separate discussion
22 > >> about putting pkg-config in @system? It could get more attention
23 > >> probably.
24 > >
25 > > my answer would still be a very strong no
26 >
27 > Agreed.
28 >
29 > Various people have in fact expressed a desire to REDUCE the number
30 > of packages in @system, for various reasons including both the
31 > parallel merge penalty and the bloat on reduced systems. In
32 > practice, there's not a lot of positive movement on actually reducing
33 > @system, but at minimum, unless there's *NO* other choice and in this
34 > case there clearly is, we shouldn't be ADDING packages to @system.
35 >
36 > For that reason, while I do see the reason why some would like
37 > pkg-config added to @system, the whole idea's pretty much a
38 > non-starter, as it WILL get a lot of push-back. In theory it /might/
39 > be forceable, but I just don't see how the cost, political, in time
40 > to push thru, and technical (given the technical reasons listed
41 > above), makes it worth pursuing in the slightest. It's just not
42 > worth going there.
43
44 But you're aware that cost of pkgconf is very little?
45
46 --
47 Best regards,
48 Michał Górny

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