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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:15:32
Message-Id: pan.2012.08.31.00.12.53@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency by Mike Frysinger
1 Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:46:21 -0400 as excerpted:
2
3 > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:20 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
5 >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
6 >>> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:05:19 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
7 >>> >>
8 >>> >> keeping things in @system doesn't make much sense:
9 >>> >> - there's a penalty (as noted in old threads)
10 >>> >> - it isn't actually required at runtime, so it's bloat on reduced
11 >>> >> systems
12 >>> >
13 >>> > I think it's practically the same as compiler.
14 >>>
15 >>> that isn't a bad view point, but for the purposes of this discussion,
16 >>> i don't think it's relevant :)
17 >>
18 >> Will it be a better view point if I opened a separate discussion about
19 >> putting pkg-config in @system? It could get more attention probably.
20 >
21 > my answer would still be a very strong no
22
23 Agreed.
24
25 Various people have in fact expressed a desire to REDUCE the number of
26 packages in @system, for various reasons including both the parallel
27 merge penalty and the bloat on reduced systems. In practice, there's not
28 a lot of positive movement on actually reducing @system, but at minimum,
29 unless there's *NO* other choice and in this case there clearly is, we
30 shouldn't be ADDING packages to @system.
31
32 For that reason, while I do see the reason why some would like pkg-config
33 added to @system, the whole idea's pretty much a non-starter, as it WILL
34 get a lot of push-back. In theory it /might/ be forceable, but I just
35 don't see how the cost, political, in time to push thru, and technical
36 (given the technical reasons listed above), makes it worth pursuing in
37 the slightest. It's just not worth going there.
38
39 --
40 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
41 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
42 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>