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Am 24.03.2010 19:03, schrieb William Hubbs: |
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> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 05:47:18PM +0000, Jeremy Olexa wrote: |
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>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:32:37 -0700, Joshua Saddler <nightmorph@g.o> |
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>> wrote: |
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>>>>> But everyone else in Gentoo does, so . . . |
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> Really? I've seen a few people object, but not everyone in gentoo. |
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>>>> Some Gentoo developers/users, who aren't Python maintainers, said that |
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>>>> they didn't object to have Python 3 installed. |
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>>> |
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>>> They're in the minority, judging by the replies in this thread. |
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>> I hate to get into the mix of this, but I suggest researching on "vocal |
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>> minority" and/or "silent majority" - the most vocal ones on this thread are |
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>> the minority of the population. I'm not attacking anyone, mind you. |
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>> I haven't expressed anything on this thread but I'm ok with marking it |
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>> stable and having concerned users mask it. The stages might get kinda funky |
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>> with both python-2 and 3 on them, but..if they are not BROKEN, I don't |
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>> care. |
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> I tend to agree with this. I don't think it is right to force everyone |
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> to wait until most of the tree works with python3 before it goes stable. |
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> That is why python is slotted; it is possible to have both versions |
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> installed at the same time. If we have packages in the tree that are |
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> pulling in both versions of python but are not compatible with them, |
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> their dependencies need to be fixed. If users do not want python-3 on |
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> their systems, that is what /etc/portage/package.mask is for. |
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> If we are going to make everyone wait until python-3 works with most |
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> packages in the tree, let's un-slot all versionf of python and hard mask |
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> python-3. |
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> William |
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Who said, that we are against a stable python-3 version? |
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The main point (as already pointed out in my previous thread about python-3) is, that it is not in |
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any way required or used. But there are still wrong dependencies (where Arfrever just closes bugs as |
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invalid) and packages like the mentioned "setuptools", which will always pull in python-3. |
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Why should we pull in python-3 for ever user, force the usual user to install a useless python-3 and |
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additional files in python-3 path for many python packages? The minimum would be to tell them, that |
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this python version is currently useless and they have the option to mask it locally. And i really |
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dont think, that the default stable user knows, that python-3 is not really needed and can be |
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masked, usually the pulled in dependencies are required, so he will expect the same for python-3. |
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