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From: Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@××××××.fm>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:07:17
Message-Id: 200901012307.08693.reavertm@poczta.fm
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files by Alistair Bush
1 On Thursday 01 of January 2009 22:03:55 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > No, FHS is not the most commonly used layout. The traditional Unix
3 > layout is the most commonly used layout.
4
5 So.. why not blindly use Unix layout everywhere instead (for Gentoo news as
6 well)
7
8 On Thursday 01 of January 2009 22:37:28 Alistair Bush wrote:
9 > I actually agreed with Ciaran on this point. especially seeing I would
10 > like us to follow the parts of LSB that make sense within the Gentoo
11 > ecosystem. (take Init Script Actions as an possible example
12 > http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-ge
13 >neric/iniscrptact.html).
14
15 So, you agree with Mr Ciaran on that FHS is silly or on blindly following
16 *every* LSB standard being silly? Great, but I wasn't suggesting any of this,
17 I just suggested to pick any standard (most commonly used in Gentoo already),
18 and *only one* and blindly follow it to avoid inconsistency.
19 In such scenario, please elaborate what is your point really.
20
21 >> It's not the point to blindly follow freedesktop or LSB - the point is to
22 >> consistently follow one standard across whole distribution - if it's FHS
23 >> - fine, if not - fine as well - but *only one* at a time.
24 > > That being said I'd rather propose to force Gentoo news to comply to
25 >> FHS as FHS is the most commonly used file/directory layout in Gentoo.
26
27 > This really is bikeshedding...... Isn't consistently following a
28 > standard also blindly following it. So when you ask us to consistently
29 > follow FHS why not ask for us to blindly follow it.
30 > Man this is getting boring.
31
32 Yes, you're right. Let everyone follow his own standards - everyone likes
33 spaghetti afterall... (just look at eclasses/ebuilds in you're uncertain)
34
35 No, it's not bikeshedding, it's misunderstanding the sentence.
36 Consistently following *some* standard is blindly following *the same*
37 standard, but consistently following *some standard* is *not* blindly
38 following LSB nor is blindly following FHS. See the difference?
39
40 So to make it all clear once again and for the last time - I would rather
41 propose to force Gentoo news to comply to existing the most commonly used
42 file/directory hierarchy structure in Gentoo distribution.
43
44 cheers
45
46 --
47 regards
48 MM

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Re: [gentoo-dev] reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>