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On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbheek@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Since GNOME 3 is already in the |
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>> tree, and the news file content is straightforward, I'd like to commit |
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>> this in 24hrs if there are no problems. |
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> If we're gong to go to all the trouble to create upgrade guides and |
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> news/etc, wouldn't it make sense to send out the news item a few days |
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> BEFORE making the change? |
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That was indeed the intention, but there was a miscommunication. |
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> If a user runs emerge -u world daily they wouldn't even see this news item. |
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> Obviously the horses have already left the barn, but maybe this is |
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> something we can do differently when it comes time to stabilize the |
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> change? |
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All is not quite lost. An elog was added to the end of |
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gnome-base/gnome-core-libs which would be merged very early on in the |
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upgrade process. Of course this is not a substitute at all, but does |
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alleviate the issue. A forums post was also made by tetromino. |
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> I'm sure this was inadvertent, but looking beyond just this particular |
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> incident is there anything we can do to improve our use of news items? |
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> Since we're a distro that uses rolling releases users really have no |
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> way to know what to expect after any particular emerge world. It |
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> could be some completely routine bump that isn't going to cause |
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> problems, or it could require extensive rebuilding, config-file |
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> tweaking, and risk of the system not booting. News is really the only |
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> way to give them a heads-up in advance. Granted, something like a |
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> gnome/kde bump is going to pull in so many packages that I think most |
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> users would exercise caution, so that mitigates the issue a bit. |
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I think that the addition of a Display-If-Visible option would help, |
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along with the addition of news file procedures to the devmanual and |
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the quizzes. Even I didn't know where to commit the news file before |
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some creative googling today gave me the right answer. |
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~Nirbheek Chauhan |
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Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team |
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