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From: Georg Rudoy <0xd34df00d@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-r2.ebuild boost-1.47.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.39.0.ebui
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:11:50
Message-Id: CAGbUWSLkc16c7ZiW0wiRF3hBqPcD1wv034mF27Op65PnqRv8UQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-r2.ebuild boost-1.47.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.39.0.ebui by Jamie Learmonth
1 2012/11/1 Jamie Learmonth <jamie-lists@×××××××××××××.com>:
2 > Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just
3 > start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the
4 > needed version like the rest of the world does anyways?
5
6 So are you suggesting to package all the binaries that depend upon too
7 old boost, or upon too new boost, or whatever, as binaries?
8
9 I always thought those few -bin packages are -bin just because they
10 take quite a lot time to be compiled.
11
12 > So how about we transform this distro into one where decisions are made on
13 > real world benefits, not purist ideals, and technical giants help each other
14 > to make breakthroughs unimaginable to others because they are smarter, work
15 > together, and the most kick-ass geeks on this interweb. I want to keep using
16 > Gentoo not just because of the pretty colours on the eix output or because
17 > when I run emerge --world in a coffee shop all the chicks think I'm that guy
18 > from the Hackers movie, or even because my favourite color is purple. I want
19 > to keep using Gentoo because the team effing rocks!
20 >
21 > Who's with me?
22
23 I hope you'd forgive I'd oppose that suggestion, given I'm not a
24 Gentoo dev but just a C++ developer who uses Gentoo as his primary
25 (and, in fact, only) distro and loves it a lot.
26
27 Gentoo has a wonderful community which I truly love, but first thing
28 about a distro is how it helps you to solve your problems and achieve
29 your goals. I'd surely miss the slotted Boost, since it was one of the
30 things I needed for my C++ thingies and which I loved, but Diego's
31 arguments are sane and reasonable, and I also had quite some PITA with
32 old/new/whatever Boost versions, so OK, I can live without slotted
33 Boost. But please, leave Gentoo as that powerful distro that really
34 helps to work and code. I want it source-based. I want to be able to
35 seamlessly have Qt 4.8.9999, or cabal integrated with Portage (kudos
36 to gentoo-haskell guys, they're doing great work), and things like
37 that.
38
39 That makes even more sense given the new C++11 standard and it's
40 gradual implementation in gcc. One could just as well say "let's just
41 keep the newest gcc 4.7 in portage, since there is software that fails
42 to build with gcc 4.6 and earlier", for example.
43
44 --
45 Georg Rudoy
46 LeechCraft — http://leechcraft.org

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