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On Sunday 05 October 2003 01:13, Jon Portnoy wrote: |
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> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:57:42PM +0000, Luke-Jr wrote: |
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> > On Saturday 04 October 2003 01:50 pm, Patrick Börjesson wrote: |
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> > > I've always thought of genkernel as a tool for those not "competent" |
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> > > enough to compile the kernel by them selves... As such I don't think it |
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> > > should be something that is used by default but rather something that |
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> > > gets mentioned in the install-docs, and not forced on users. |
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> > Compiling the kernel is quite simple: 'make bzImage modules' |
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> > I believe you mean configuring, which genkernel still lets you do. |
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> > Also, as I said, there could be a -src suffix to install the source. For |
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> > example, what about people who would consider themselves "competent" |
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> > enough to compile GCC or KDE themselves? =p |
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> Every dev and user who has responded has said it's a Very Bad Idea. Why |
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> are you still arguing for it? |
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Ahem? |
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I think the main point to the discussion is new users. I, too, have never used |
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genkernel so don't know how viable the idea of using it in its current state |
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would be. Nor am I admonishing that it should be the "only way to go". |
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However, everything in Gentoo is configured, compiled and installed through |
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the single emerge command. It would make most sense to me to choose what |
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classes of drivers/functionality I wanted through USE flags and then do |
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post-installation configuration through /etc/modules.autoload*. Can anyone |
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say why the kernel is special and should be done differently? - other than if |
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it ain't broke don't fix it! |
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I'm with almost all other people in that it would not be a high priority for |
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some time to come. On the other hand, I'm against people who are putting |
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forward arguments that the kernel is somehow special. Almost every other |
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package is installed with extra cruft so that can't be used as an excuse. |
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Gentoo is about making things easier for everyone which means safe defaults |
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and easily accessible complete customisation, so Luke-Jr's idea at least |
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deserves consideration rather than instant dismissal. |
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Jason |
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