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On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 21:48 +0100, Steve Long wrote: |
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> You already have two lists. Your argument that core is for more private |
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> stuff, but not developer communication seems odd. |
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Well we need two development type of lists. The first question we ask |
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any new devs on our quizzes is |
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When is it appropriate to post to gentoo-core rather than gentoo-dev? |
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I would answer that, but I would be answering a quiz question. Of which |
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the answer can be found in our online documentation. |
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> but I really |
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> do not understand why that should mean users are not allowed to contribute |
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> as you suggested in your other post. |
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If two devs are having an issue they are trying to work out. Community |
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involvement is likely to make that issue larger and worse. Which could |
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result in a user siding with a dev, dev getting upset and bailing or |
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etc. |
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Instead of the two devs left to work out their problems on their own. If |
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they can't they take it to devrel or etc. When users get involved in |
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that, it mucks things up. We then have to start using words like |
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moderation and etc. |
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> As for moderation, the simple fact is that your devs have neither the time |
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> nor the experience to do such a job. |
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I have some ideas there that I need to run by others first. I will then |
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GLEP it and put it out there for all :) |
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> Good luck with reinventing everything and discussing the same stuff you have |
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> for the last year that led to the formation of the Proctors. |
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Making changes and evolving is not reinvention. Quit many things aren't |
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being changed. |
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> I accept that |
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> the decision to disband them has been taken, although it seems odd that no |
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> notification of the meeting which led to this latest change was given. |
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Pretty sure there are always notifications of council meetings. Although |
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not sure such notification is required per any policy. |
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> Obviously I think this is a major strategic error, and it's sad that rather |
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> than one member admit a mistake, the present Council has to override the |
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> consensus that took so long to reach. |
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Reversing a past decision is itself a form a admitting a mistake or |
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error. Or that trying something new didn't work as expected or etc. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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Gentoo/Java |