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Roy Bamford posted on Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:21:07 +0100 as excerpted: |
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> On 06/19/13 18:35:49, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>> It is unfortunate to observe constant bullying, insults and trolling |
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>> across our public media. Developers have been warned over and over that |
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>> such behaviour is not acceptable and they should try to behave |
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>> properly. However, people have ignored such warnings for a very long |
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>> time. This ends today. |
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> This has my support. |
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> I would like to see council voice their complete support publically too, |
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> as thats one of the reasons proctors failed. |
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Also, I know there's sensitivity in providing real-case examples and |
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contrived examples might not work too well, but... |
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If possible, it'd be useful to have (say) 2-3 good examples of triggers. |
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[TL;DR folks stop there.] |
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At least once an action is finalized (whatever way) by full devrel or |
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council, arguably an action-triggering public statement in some media |
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deserves an equally public apology (if the original offender finds it |
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appropriate) or rebuttal (if such rebuttal on behalf of gentoo is |
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necessary due to lack of apology) by the same media. |
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IIRC I've been called on to issue an apology once. I don't remember the |
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details, but I do remember that I hadn't intended it to sound the way it |
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did and I unconditionally apologized once someone pointed out how it read |
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from a perspective other than my own. |
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I've also called for a public apology a (small) handful of times, only |
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once recently, from a user-poster not a dev, here. One other user |
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replied to that backing me up but indicating that he thought a few devs |
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might need such a call from time to time as well, while I've not seen |
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anything besides that one post that I considered "beyond the pale" far |
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enough to call for an apology on in /quite/ some time now, so evidently |
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he's a bit more sensitive than I am at this point. |
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Which means either that the potentially triggering instances aren't |
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happening on this list, or that my sensitivity needs reset. I'm worried |
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about the latter, and an example or two (anyone who believes they might |
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have been out of line care to post a link/apology?) might help me with |
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that reset, or clarify that the triggers haven't been happening here, but |
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in IRC or on the blogs or whatever. Either would be useful. |
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-- |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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