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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:04:34
Message-Id: 1199833405.8108.34.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting by Ferris McCormick
1 On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 19:59 +0000, Ferris McCormick wrote:
2 > 3) Most devrel requests seem really to relate to CoC violations. Would
3 > you like us to bounce those to the CoC people, process them using CoC
4 > rules, or keep doing what we are doing now (generally, close them with a
5 > note explaining why or mediate them)? (I'm talking about the "He's
6 > being rude/sarcastic/disrespectful" sorts of things which really need to
7 > be processed immediately and merit a warning or brief suspension if
8 > anything.)
9
10 How hard is it to realize that the CoC is a superset of DevRel (and
11 other) policies?
12
13 If someone breaks DevRel policy ("be good to each other") that also
14 happens to be a CoC rule and someone reports it to DevRel, they should
15 actually *do* something about it, rather than trying to pass it off onto
16 someone else or spend months engaging in witless banter about whether
17 there's even an issue or not. After all, when the CoC was enacted,
18 never once was it said that it would override DevRel or otherwise make
19 DevRel invalid. If someone comes to DevRel with a problem, you're
20 supposed to try to work out the issue with them. It really is that
21 simple. There's no need for some kind of territorial pissing match or
22 passing the buck.
23
24 Someone came to DevRel for help because they think DevRel can help them
25 and it is DevRel's job to do so. The CoC was put in place to allow for
26 catching bad behaviors *before* they would get to DevRel, without
27 requiring someone to necessarily "report" the issue. Once a developer
28 has reported an issue to DevRel, it's their job to work it using their
29 own policies, as it then becomes a DevRel issue. The two things serve
30 somewhat different purposes. The CoC was designed to curb or prevent
31 bad behavior, where DevRel's job is to prevent bad behavior from
32 recurring, or taking disciplinary action when necessary for repeat
33 offenders.
34
35 --
36 Chris Gianelloni
37 Release Engineering Strategic Lead
38 Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
39 Games Developer/Foundation Trustee
40 Gentoo Foundation

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