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Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500 as excerpted: |
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> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +0000, Duncan wrote |
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>> Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted: |
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>>> Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a |
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>>> bunch bugs+patches, and gets them rejected. Then whenever anyone |
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>>> complains about not sharing code, show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails |
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>>> from systemd/udev maintainers. |
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>> This attitude is and the described events would be... unfortunate. |
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>> For the reasons you list, I don't believe people should be /surprised/ |
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>> if many such bugs+patches are rejected after submission, but that |
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>> wouldn't make it any less unfortunate, and IMO, hoping they DO get |
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>> rejected is the wrong attitude to have. |
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> I should've been clearer in my email, rather than a train-of-thought |
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> approach... |
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> 1) For appearance's sake and to make our position better in outsiders' |
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> view, I *HOPE* that eudev developers are co-operative in regards to |
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> sharing patches with systemd/udev. |
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> 2) Given past history, I *EXPECT* at least some bugs to be "resolved" |
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> by the systemd/udev developers as WONTFIX. It was their attitude that |
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> led to eudev in the first place. |
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OK, /that/ I agree with. Keep the two-way open from our side so that |
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it's their decision, not ours. Given history, I can't see anyone being |
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terribly surprised if they reject as WONTFIX, but let it be their |
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decision, not ours. |
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There's as many differences as parallels, but I keep thinking of the |
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openoffice/libreoffice split. The libreoffice folks bent over backward |
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to keep the license and code something that Oracle/IBM could still use, |
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tho they chose not to. But that was their decision, not the decision of |
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the libreoffice folks. If the systemd-udev/eudev split endures, we could |
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surely do a lot worse than libreoffice and still count it success, and I |
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think we'd do well to emulate them in our bending over backward to retain |
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legal and code reusability between the projects. If they choose not to |
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take advantage, well, that's on them. As with lo/ooo, it may be that the |
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code diverges over time, but let's not throw up artificial barriers to |
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sharing immediately, nor hope that they don't take advantage, even if we |
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won't be surprised should they chose not to. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |