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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:22:25
Message-Id: 4E0D6770.6010604@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x by Nirbheek Chauhan
1 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
2 > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale<rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
3 >
4 >> William Hubbs wrote:
5 >> As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well
6 >> reinstall anyway. That is usually the advice given on -user. After a year
7 >> without updating, it is certainly easier and most likely faster to
8 >> reinstall.
9 >>
10 > Except for the fact that while you upgrade, you still have a usable
11 > system. Reinstallation means a massive time-sink during which your
12 > machine is completely unusable. This is not an option for a lot of
13 > people.
14 >
15 > If -user is regularly giving that kind of advice, I think you guys are
16 > making a huge mistake.
17 >
18 > I'm not going to support this kind of max-6-month-upgrade life cycle
19 > for Gentoo. We're effectively driving our users away to distros like
20 > Ubuntu that allow you to upgrade every LTS release instead of
21 > constantly or every 6 months.
22 >
23 >
24
25 Well, it has been done. A while ago, if I recall this correctly,
26 someone hadn't updated in about a year. He tried to upgrade but ran
27 into issue after issue. After a couple days, he ended up reinstalling.
28 It just depends on what updates have come along that causes issues.
29
30 I think things are better than they used to be but sometimes, it is
31 faster to just reinstall and be done with it. It's either spend a day
32 or more dealing with problems or spending a day getting a fresh start.
33
34 As for not having a system, I have one when I do my install. I just
35 boot Knoppix and use it. I can use a web browser to follow the docs and
36 check email. It's one of many ways to install Gentoo.
37
38 It's not about what Gentoo supports, it's about what is faster, easier
39 or at times, both.
40
41 Dale
42
43 :-) :-)