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From: tadpol@××××××.org
To: gentoo-dev@××××××××××.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for User Feedback
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:17:29
Message-Id: 20010730141703.B8819@tadpol.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for User Feedback by Dan Armak
1 On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 07:40:19PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
2 > Just an idea: what if users (those who agree, of course), when doing emerge
3 > rsync, transmit to the gentoo server anonymous info on which packages they
4 > have installed? If not, maybe at least the developers?
5 >
6 > The rationale: I have twice now faced a problem where a complex ebuild I
7 > built and commited quite some time ago wasn't functioning. And I said to
8 > myself, this is a very important program who's ebuild isn't working! If this
9 > was a generic problem I would be flooded with emails from the other people
10 > who use it! And I wanted to find these other people who used it, but there
11 > were none among the gentoo developers, and I couldn't contact any of the
12 > users.
13
14 This is confusing. What I read (and probably not what you ment to say) is
15 that when ppl try to use an ebuild that doesn't work, they will not tell us
16 about it?
17
18 > This way, we'll know what ebuilds are *known* to work properly - at least
19 > under some h/w configurations - and most importantly, in what combinations
20 > and revisions. And it will give the users a painless way to help us.
21
22 Many people find it quite painful to share details about their systems.
23 They tend to exagerate it into all kinds of personal invasion. Even when
24 there are perfectly good arguments that it is not. In something like this,
25 what people think it is has more weight than what it really is.
26
27 > Finally, we'll also know what packages are most often used, in what
28 > combinations, and thus (as far as we work for our users) what areas to
29 > concentrate upon.
30 >
31 > What do you think?
32
33 Other than my automatic rejection to collecting info, Someone wil have to
34 spend a good deal of time building the collection system. And right now I
35 think energy could be better spent elsewhere.
36
37 I can see how the information would be useful. And I would suggest a
38 script that users can run, view the collected infomation, and upload
39 somewhere over anything automatic. By putting the details into the hands
40 of the users, and letting them see exactly what they are going to send
41 (they wouldn't have to look at the contents, but we should give them the
42 chance) before they send it, people will likey be more comfortable about
43 sharing the info.
44
45
46 I imagin I just really confused things....
47 --
48 Michael Tilstra tadpol@××××××.org
49 As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for User Feedback Dan Armak <danarmak@g.o>