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On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:37 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. |
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> On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: |
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> > On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: |
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> > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: |
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> > > >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > >> OK... so gentoo-networking? or just come up with own name? best-networking? |
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> > > You and I have had this talk more times than I can remember at this |
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> > > point. Using the name "oldnet" sucks and was one of the worst choices |
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> > > possible. Looking through our IRC chats, I had also suggested |
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> > > gentoo-networking. |
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> I thought about gentoo-networking, but that sucks in a way too because |
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> it implies that everyone on gentoo should be using it. |
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> That's not quite right because we have at least five network stacks I |
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> can think of off the top of my head, and OpenRc upstream supports |
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> another. |
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> - OpenRc upstream supports newnet, which I have played with, and I |
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> believe people on Gentoo are using successfully. |
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> - what we have been calling the oldnet stack, which most gentoo users |
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> have been using. |
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> - dhcpcd in standalone mode. |
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> - wicd |
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> - NetworkManager |
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> - badvpn |
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I do not understand... the 'old net' which is actually gentoo |
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networking for years, are fully functional script to manage and create |
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a lot of configurations, and one of the advantages we have at Gentoo |
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over other distributions. |
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The only reason why this is called old net is because Roy switched to |
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*BSD. What you call new net requires vast knowledge in network tools |
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usage and interaction, which makes life very difficult. |
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Some examples I managed to document: |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/Firewall_Using_Firehol |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/OpenVPN_Server |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/OpenVPN_Non_Root |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/Vpnc_Non_Root |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/VM_Tap_Networking |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/PPP_Client |
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http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/PPPoE_Client |
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> As I have said before, none of this is an attempt to kill or deprecate |
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> anything. It is just re-arranging things by moving the old gentoo |
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> network stack into its own package. There are no plans to stop you from |
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> using it if you want to use it. There is definitely nothing being said |
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> here about the state of OpenRc in general. |
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From behind the words it indeed looks like there is a change coming. |
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Alon |
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