Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council constituent meeting 30 July 2013 at 19:00 UTC

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
>> - vote for holding meetings every 2nd Tuesday of the month at 2000
>> UTC
>> (or
>> 1900 UTC depending on daylight savings)
>
> In any timezone in particular?
>

Don't care much, but agree we should pick one.

>
> The open floor is a part of the openness and approachability of the
> council.  Its 60 seconds well spent, even if nobody says anything.

The concern that was raised was that when it does get used it is rare
for anything to get accomplished.  The desire is to have issues raised
and debated on the lists first.

I don't have a big problem with open floor - I just think it is a bit
of a waste of time.  If somebody wants to raise an issue they need
only ask.

>> - vote on meeting format 2: "shift council votes to mail instead of
>> IRC"
>
> Please keep voting in public.  Its good for accountability.
> If not in IRC, find a way to publish who voted and now.
> Council do not get a secret ballot.

Agreed.  I don't think the intent of that item was ever to REPLACE
in-person voting with email.  I think the intent was to allow for it
so that when a critical issue comes up a week after the agenda is
already set that everybody doesn't have to wait 5 weeks for the
following council meeting.  It seems really odd to have a 100-post
flamewar with no immediate action, and then to dredge up the topic a
month later and vote, and then have another 100-post flameware to talk
about the outcome.  I don't think we need off-the-cuff decisions, but
if a topic is ripe for a decision we should have a way to actually
take care of it.

Public debate and votes only make sense.  Bugs might be a useful way
to record this (much as is done with the trustees).

Rich