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On Friday 29 May 2009 04:12:04 Ryan Hill wrote: |
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> On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:12 +0200 |
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> Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote: |
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> > This is becoming a rather lengthy email ping pong, but as people seem to |
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> > be unable to discuss things I had to highlight a few issues there. |
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> I'm sorry to be rude, |
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Don't be, most other posters on this list have no guilt either ... |
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> but ever consider that the reason people keep |
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> repeating things to you is that you continually misunderstand what they're |
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> saying? |
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I'd say it is more the refusal of certain people to discuss at all. |
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The constant attempts to shove a rational discussion into emotional pockets |
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makes it quite hard to get any information out of it, statements like: |
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> No, it's entirely objective. GLEP 55 clearly shows how the filename |
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> based options are objectively better than anything else. |
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are just wrong. It ignores one side of the conversation completely, not even |
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accepting any potential value in their contribution. It's not a way to lead a |
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technical discussion, and I'll do what I can to reduce such sophistry so we |
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can _discuss_ things rationally. |
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If anyone needs help - there's a few experienced engineers on this list that |
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can help you get your ideas into a form that can be presented, discussed and |
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improved without having to repeatedly ask for clarification what the actual |
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problem is. Don't be afraid to learn from them. |
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> I think that by now we've exhausted everything that can possibly be said |
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> about GLEP 55. Nothing in this discussion is new, nor has it been for some |
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> time. Can we please just stop now and trust the representatives that we've |
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> elected to make their decision? Or should we go around the ring one more |
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> time? |
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Looking at how it went last time ... prepare for at least two further rounds |
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of trying to convince people that their feelings are wrong. That, of course, |
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is doomed to failure because our subjective reality cannot be falsified, but |
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facts (and their darn liberal bias!) or logic are usually only accidentally |
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involved. |
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