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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New item for sys-kernel/hardened-sources removal
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 00:59:46
Message-Id: CAAD4mYj4FMN=dVTQB_4HLBstW9yGgSoYqRXnf20i3umTZJKAJw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New item for sys-kernel/hardened-sources removal by "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)"
1 On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera
2 (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote:
3 > El 15/08/17 a las 17:50, R0b0t1 escribió:
4 >> Where was this decision discussed?
5 > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-hardened/message/62ebc2e26d91e8f079197c2c83788cff
6 >
7 > And many other threads in that list for example, those are just blueness
8 > (the package maintainer) conclussions.
9 >> The last available kernel is
10 >> apparently receiving long term support, there may not be any reason to
11 >> remove it.
12 > Not by the original upstream, and definitively not in the way in which
13 > Grsec used to (manually cherrypicking security related commits and not
14 > just those marked as security related).
15 >
16
17 All blueness says in that is that he can't personally support the
18 patches. That's fine, and nobody that I know of ever expected him to
19 do that. However, until they are unfixably broken, why remove them?
20 Keeping them until a suitable replacement is available seems like the
21 best option available.
22
23 There's no criteria in that notice for when they would be removed.
24 What criteria was used to decide they are generating useless work and
25 should be removed?
26
27 > Although minipli's kernel patches are good and I personally recommend
28 > them, this is not something the Gentoo Hardened team will do. Also they
29 > probably should be renamed something else.
30
31 I'm not sure anyone is asking the hardened team to do anything, except
32 for people on the hardened team who want to remove the patches.
33
34 >> If it isn't broken and creating work yet I'm not sure why
35 >> anyone cares.
36 >
37 > Go to #gentoo-hardened and see how there is people asking about this
38 > again and again :P
39 >
40
41 I'm not sure what you mean. There are people asking about it, but that
42 doesn't necessarily mean they want it to happen. If something is done
43 people are going to discuss it regardless of what it is.
44
45
46 Please understand, I don't want to keep an old version of the kernel
47 and associated patches around forever, just until a replacement is
48 actually found.
49
50 R0b0t1.

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