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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:49:21
Message-Id: pan.2007.07.15.10.45.20@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes by Daniel Drake
1 Daniel Drake <dsd@g.o> posted 46999A84.10101@g.o, excerpted
2 below, on Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:54:44 -0400:
3
4 > I do like the "gentoo-politics" idea that came up a few weeks ago, which
5 > was to move politics off gentoo-dev and to another list, but I'd view it
6 > from another perspective (and avoid the words 'politics'): make
7 > gentoo-dev for development topics only, and have another list for the
8 > rest. But, I suspect we'd come back to the same problem on both lists,
9 > where some people are too keen to talk and deviate too far away from
10 > technical discussion.
11
12 I like the "gentoo-project" (yes, that's better than politics) idea as
13 well, and believe it /could/ solve the problem here, given a couple
14 conditions are met.
15
16 One, -project is not to be required reading for devs as -dev is. Devs
17 (and others) can ignore it if they wish.
18
19 Two, people be consistent about telling folks to go to -project when it
20 goes OT, setting the followup-to/reply-to. Telling folks much of the
21 current discussion doesn't belong in -dev doesn't help now, because
22 there's nowhere to send them. Once there is, simple "no further replies
23 here, this belongs on the gentoo-project list", no name calling, no
24 further discussion, just that, if enough current regulars do it, should
25 dramatically decrease the noise level here.
26
27 Already since the idea was proposed, I've wished the other list was up
28 and running, as there are posts I'd have posted there rather than here,
29 this whole thread could have gone there (except one would hope it
30 wouldn't be needed then), etc. I really think it can work... because
31 I've seen it work on other groups and mailing lists before. It just has
32 to be implemented. Then, if after a month or two it's not working, /
33 then/ I'd say it's time to consider bringing in the big moderation guns.
34 But I think it can and will work without those guns, provided we give it
35 the chance and effort to make it so.
36
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38 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
39 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
40 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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