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From: Joshua Jackson <tsunam@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft > attachments to [STABLE] bugs
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:27:27
Message-Id: 44DCAF2F.4000601@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft > attachments to [STABLE] bugs by Jeroen Roovers
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5 >> ex.
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7 >> gcc 4.1.1 works on x86 with the following:
8 >>
9 >> USE="gtk nls -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran -gcj -hardened -ip28
10 >> -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test
11 >> -vanilla"
12 >
13 > Looks OK to me. But hey, aren't arch devs and testers alike supposed to
14 > test (almost) all flags? And also, wouldn't you also want to know about
15 > FEATURES, specifically FEATURES='{test,collision-detect}'? How about
16 > KEYWORDS? You would still need to be able to find the full `emerge info`
17 > in an attachment, I guess.
18 Heck no, I'd spend a few weeks just testing for example php. That's
19 deranged at its best and insane at the worst. The request as put out
20 to the arch testers is to use the system like they use any system,
21 just that they only run x86, amd64 other packages except for what they
22 are going to be testing. As far as features go we ask that they run
23 the same as a developer should, test collision-protect on top of what
24 is already added by default. Keywords is not useful for the arch teams
25 as we know that the AT's run $arch and not ~$arch. However at least
26 saying x86 okie with me here would be a requirement
27 >
28 > I still think failures should be reported in separate bugs, as they are
29 > likely to cause lots more information to be passed.
30 >
31 >
32 > Kind regards,
33 > JeR
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36 Actually, one thing that you might not know is that quite a few of the
37 archtesters are capable programmers, they've tested a build that
38 failed and went about submitting a patch that would fix the issue
39 right there on the stabilization bug. Now you might want to say why
40 are they not developers yet. Part of that is probably, because they
41 haven't been approached by a developer yet, the second is that some
42 can't dedicate more time then what they are doing currently to help
43 the project, and that is alright. They are helping the arch teams
44 immensely and I'm thankful for them taking their own time to be doing
45 what they are doing. I might not always say thank you on the bugs,
46 however I feel it everyday.
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