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From: desultory <desultory@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] xorg-2.eclass: Remove use of prune_libtool_files
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 04:48:55
Message-Id: ae58789f-e9f8-0e5c-b331-8445a8fd7e36@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] xorg-2.eclass: Remove use of prune_libtool_files by "Michał Górny"
1 On 02/24/19 04:04, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 22:19 -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
3 >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:30 PM desultory <desultory@g.o> wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> On 02/20/19 02:36, Michał Górny wrote:
6 >>>> On Wed, 2019-02-20 at 07:20 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
7 >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2019, Matt Turner wrote:
8 >>>>>
9 >>>>>
10 >>>>>> # Don't install libtool archives (even for modules)
11 >>>>>> - prune_libtool_files --all
12 >>>>>> + find "${D}" -name '*.la' -delete || die
13 >>>>>
14 >>>>> Maybe restrict removal to regular files, i.e. add "-type f"?
15 >>>>
16 >>>> I suppose you should have spoken up when people started adopting that
17 >>>> 'find' line all over the place. Though I honestly doubt we're going to
18 >>>> see many packages installing '*.la' non-files.
19 >>>>
20 >>>
21 >>> Just so we are all clear here: your argument is that more fully correct
22 >>> approaches should not be considered in the present and future because
23 >>> less fully correct approaches were implemented in the past? And,
24 >>> further, that since nothing matching a specific pattern happens to come
25 >>> to your mind at he moment, such things do not exist? Perhaps dialing
26 >>> back the rhetoric from 11 and considering feedback as an opportunity to
27 >>> improve existing code is called for in this case, among others.
28 >>
29 >> I think you might be reading more into this than was intended.
30 >>
31 >> I read his email as lamenting that the horse has left the barn, so to
32 >> speak. There are already hundreds of uses of find -name '*.la' -delete
33 >> without -type f in the tree, probably in large part because
34 >> ltprune.eclass suggests the form without it.
35 >>
36 >> Suggesting dialing down the rhetoric when it appears that you have
37 >> overreacted is a bit humorous.
38 >>
39 >
40 > He simply decided to stalk me and issue ad hominem attacks whenever he
41 > can. It's how professionals in Gentoo react to critique.
42 >
43 I am hardly "stalking" you. I am addressing bad ideas and poor
44 maintainer behavior, that it happens to be yours is immaterial to me.
45 Besides, you effectively demanded that I participate more broadly[1], so
46 do kindly pick one sort of libel and stick to it. As contradicting
47 yourself not only weakens your argument (were it to have a basis to
48 begin with), it makes malicious intent more obvious.
49
50 As for ad hominem attacks, do kindly present examples, I would be most
51 interested in any which you can demonstrate are unjustified. When I ask
52 if/how/why your behavior is acceptable for someone in your roles, I am
53 seriously asking that question. I want to know the rationale, especially
54 under what are, at least nominally, the rules governing the interactions
55 and behaviors which I am inquiring about. Though I will forego linking
56 to that, as that evidently annoys you.
57
58 [1]
59 https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/b498bcfaf34ffc355eaba3afafd1ee96