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From: Roy Marples <uberlord@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:46:42
Message-Id: 200605171042.14882.uberlord@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles by Wernfried Haas
1 On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:23, Wernfried Haas wrote:
2 > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:16:32PM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
3 > > This is not only about adding a profile, but if paludis is officially
4 > > supported by being in the tree and profiles, fixes for paludis get
5 > > into the tree etc, this sounds like paludis is a Gentoo project and users
6 > > will expect it to work and be supported. They will be allowed to ask
7 > > questions about something not working with paludis on the forums,
8 > > mailing lists, on irc etc without being off-topic.
9 > > So far and with respect to other distributions (like e.g. Vida,
10 > > Kororaa or whatever they were called) a rule of thumb was:
11 > > A Gentoo system uses the official portage tree, was installed using
12 > > the Gentoo installation guide using Gentoo stages, etc - and which was
13 > > rather implicit - using portage as package manager. As far i
14 > > understand it paludis differs from that in many ways.
15 > > So before the package manager gets optional and we support something
16 > > quite different we really should figure out what we consider a Gentoo
17 > > installation.
18
19 I see no difference between this and other external projects which have an
20 impact on the tree, like say gcc. If a gentoo dev puts an alpha of gcc in and
21 it's package masked and stuff, then I expect devs that put Paludis in the
22 tree to provide a similar level of support.
23
24 I will happily provide support for baselayout and what I put it in the tree,
25 but I'll provide exactly the same level of support for Paludis as I do for
26 Portage - nothing.
27
28 >
29 > Does the lack of responses mean everyone agrees to my point? We really
30 > should figure that stuff out before we start integrating an externally
31 > written package manager we have no influence on whatsoever - otherwise
32 > it would just be fair to do everything any other Gentoo based
33 > distribution demands from us as well.
34
35 Tell you what, you figure out the internals of baselayout or we'll remove it
36 from the tree. I think a few Gentoo dev's know Paludis internals enough to
37 support it.
38
39 --
40 Roy Marples <uberlord@g.o>
41 Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Wernfried Haas <amne@g.o>