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From: Marc Schiffbauer <mschiff@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:09:45
Message-Id: 20120105110849.GC20366@lisa.schiffbauer.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr by "Michał Górny"
1 * Michał Górny schrieb am 05.01.12 um 09:26 Uhr:
2 > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:30:07 +0100
3 > Marc Schiffbauer <mschiff@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > * Olivier Crête schrieb am 04.01.12 um 18:40 Uhr:
6 > > > On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:54 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
7 > > > > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:51:12 +0100
8 > > > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
9 > > > > > /bin/systemctl
10 > > > > > libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3
11 > > > >
12 > > > > Here is a prime example of why "vertical integration" should
13 > > > > really be called "a horrible mess of tight coupling"...
14 > > >
15 > > > You clearly have failed to realize that d-bus is a now the bus for
16 > > > system messaging and is as much part of the system as syslog or
17 > > > bash. Probably even more so, for example, in Fedora 17, you'll be
18 > > > able to boot without syslog or bash, but you need d-bus.
19 > >
20 > > IMO a system should *always* be bootable without that "high level"
21 > > stuff. And by bootable I mean that you can get a root prompt at
22 > > least.
23 >
24 > And why do you consider D-Bus being high-level? Just because things
25 > used to reinvent the wheel before in a much worse fashion?
26
27 I meant "hight-level" only in a way that it is not really needed to
28 boot the very basic things of a system so that I can get a root
29 prompt at the console at least. E.g. you do not need dbus to find
30 and mount the rootfs, fire a getty and shell.
31
32 -Marc
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