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From: Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:34:39
Message-Id: 5016C57C.4050304@orlitzky.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default by "Michał Górny"
1 On 07/30/12 12:28, Michał Górny wrote:
2 >
3 > My point here is that you want the thing to change. So you first try to
4 > convince people here to change. We practically did a small survey here
5 > and in the result we didn't agree on doing the change.
6 >
7 > So you're saying we should do another survey on another group, hoping
8 > that this time the result will be on your side.
9
10 We didn't do a survey, we asked,
11
12 "Is there a reason for not using at least en_US.UTF-8 as a "sane"
13 default value?"
14
15 Unsurprisingly, the responses contained reasons for not using
16 en_US.UTF-8 as the default.
17
18 Don't take my original reply out of context, I don't actually care what
19 we have as the default.
20
21
22 >
23 > It depends on who the 'unbiased sample' is. Are you interested only in
24 > opinion of Gentoo users who visit the website? Who sync once a day?
25 > Once a week? Who follow Gentoo Planet? Who participate in the forums?
26 >
27 > We can create the survey and announce it everywhere. But it still won't
28 > catch many old-time Gentoo users who can actually have something
29 > opposite to say. It won't be unbiased.
30
31 The technical objection to C.UTF-8 is that it's non-standard, Ok. What
32 are the technical objections to LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8? If the
33 alternatives are all improvements, the statistics are irrelevant.

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default Kent Fredric <kentfredric@×××××.com>