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On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:31 AM, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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> > The quality problem is that we have too many developers. If you make |
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> > community contributions easier, sane and more reliable (due to code |
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> > review) then you solve several problems at once, because you need _less_ |
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> > developers. Are you aware that we could potentially "pull" in hundreds |
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> > of contributors who chose to work on their personal overlay instead of |
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> > the gentoo tree? Are you aware that there are a lot of those people? |
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> Yes and no. |
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> I'll agree that with a review workflow we might only need one reviewer |
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> for every 10 contributors, or something like that. If we have 100 |
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> active devs today, in theory we could instead turn 20 of them into |
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> reviewers, and now we can support 2000 contributors. |
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> There are some big assumptions with this kind of argument, though: |
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> 1. We might find that we don't even have 20 devs interested in doing |
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> a substantial amount of review. |
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> 2. The main repository is very diverse. If 50% of our packages have |
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> only one person interested in maintaining them, then they get dropped |
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> since reviewers will ignore their contributions. Or, they'll just |
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> rubber-stamp them which is adding valueless work. |
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> So, a review system could make manpower either more of an issue or |
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> less of one. I suspect that trying to force it would basically end up |
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> putting the entire distro on hold until most of the current devs quit, |
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> and a new crop signs up who is interested in using the new workflow, |
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> and then they're starting with zero experience. |
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> I think a review model is best implemented by individual project |
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> teams. They could use it to track changes in an overlay or branch in |
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> the main tree, and then move those into the main tree using whatever |
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> quality system seems best. The team can figure out what is working |
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> best for it, and if over time a large number of devs feel that it is a |
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> good way to work we could then talk about doing it with the main tree. |
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> I still suspect we'll end up having problems with the 70% of packages |
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> that don't fall into a project though. |
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So basically Gentoo Sunrise? :) |
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-A |
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> Rich |
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