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From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:47:15
Message-Id: 45F94D7A.70008@cesmail.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch by Warwick Bruce Chapman
1 Warwick Bruce Chapman wrote:
2 > There is a plethora of potential Gentoo developers out there and this
3 > sort of press does nothing for getting them any closer to joining the
4 > effort.
5 I consider myself a "potential Gentoo developer", although as I stated
6 in my first post I simply don't have the time. I'd have to stop doing
7 something else I love to do this. Most of the packages I'm interested in
8 are very well maintained anyhow. In any event, the Distrowatch article
9 did not change either my perception of the quality of Gentoo or rule out
10 me volunteering as a developer. What it did do is prompt me to reply to
11 the DistroWatch message board, as I often do. And I said essentially
12 what I've said here -- I am still a Gentoo loyalist and I haven't seen a
13 decrease in the day-to-day quality of Gentoo for *any* reason.
14 >
15 > Secondly, regarding the DW article, surely if it was as baseless as
16 > many members of this list suggest, and I am not referring to the
17 > specific references in the article, but to the underlying reasons the
18 > author may have decided to write it, then DW should have immediately
19 > been corrected on the issue and made to publish a retraction. I am
20 > not sure this is the case and, while I am only a user and casual
21 > contributor, I have become more and more aware of the grumblings and
22 > (perceived?) increase in turnover of developers.
23 It isn't just DistroWatch any more. I'm here because there was an
24 announcement on the Gentoo front page that a code of conduct was being
25 discussed on the mailing list. Hell, there was even a mailto link to
26 subscribe! As I mentioned in a previous post, perhaps someone could find
27 out just how gentoo.org ranks in web page hit statistics compared to
28 Debian, Fedora, openSuSE and Ubuntu. So -- Gentoo's home page -- the
29 marketing face of the distro to the world -- invites one and all to join
30 a discussion on a code of conduct, and most of us, even "advanced"
31 users, have no idea of the context. That's both good and bad. It's good
32 -- very good, IMHO -- because it shows that the community is open to
33 feedback and is willing to announce that. And it's bad because you don't
34 in general want negativity on your front page.
35 >
36 > Thus, with all respect due to current and past developers, could I
37 > suggest that regardless of whether or not the DW article is worth
38 > consideration, the process of adopting the Communication CoC and the
39 > structures required to implement it be followed through in the best
40 > interests of all developers and users of the Gentoo project.
41 +1, as they say on other lists, with the proviso that the discussion
42 continue until all have been heard. Processes like this take as long as
43 they take.
44
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46 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky, FBG, AB, PTA, PGS, MS, MNLP, NST, ACMC(P)
47 http://borasky-research.blogspot.com/
48
49 If God had meant for carrots to be eaten cooked, He would have given rabbits fire.
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Distrowatch Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk>