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On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com) |
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<nd@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> Am 23.05.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>: |
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>> Well, besides not being browser-based as far as I can tell, without |
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>> integration with the IMAP server those emails in multiple directories |
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>> won't show up in multiple directories when accessed from any other |
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>> client. |
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> This is a behavior of your email client and typically not part of the service (except if you see webmail clients as part of it). |
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I almost exclusively access my email via the web, but also desire to |
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access it via clients, such as on mobile. |
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With Gmail I can have an email with 14 tags. Via IMAP it shows up as |
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if it were in 14 folders at the same time. It is a bit kludgy, but it |
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at least works. |
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If I just used squirrelmail and sylpheed as clients, and courier as my |
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IMAP server, then as far as I can tell if I did tag an email with 14 |
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tags in sylpheed then I wouldn't see that in squirrelmail. |
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>> What I like about Gmail is that I can operate from the |
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>> browser, but still have access to my mail via IMAP if I need it, and |
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>> of course it has a really nice Android offline client (and an offline |
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>> html5 client as well). |
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> WOW, |
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> this is what our customers still had around 20 years ago and far before any "google" exist... |
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Not with tagging, as far as I'm aware. I also doubt that you had an |
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offline html5 client 20 years ago. |
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> My experience is that more then 99% of all email users did not |
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> know/recognized the power of real IMAP - resultet from crippled |
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> IMAP services of their providers or still being in POP3 in their |
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> mind. Services like server side searching, access rules to folders or |
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> even the SIEVE filter standards are very new to them, but available |
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> since around 20 years on the email service market. Gmail was one of |
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> the first „fee free“ mail services internationally offering at |
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> least a halfway usable IMAP - 20 years after that was standard for |
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> pro users and many of the features that customer audience is calling |
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> „gmail feature“ are still parts of standards, available decades |
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> before... |
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Sure, and that was how I was doing it before I switched to Gmail. |
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Before I had a smartphone/chromebook/etc I'd just check email from |
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thunderbird, and have squirrelmail available for rare web-only use. |
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Then my usage patterns changed and I don't even have an X11-based |
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email client anymore. All those rich client features don't work when |
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they're chained to your home directory and don't sync their settings |
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with all the other clients you use. |
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Gmail draws the boundaries different between client/server on mail, |
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and I find it works much better for me that way. |
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And to be useful I also need reasonable integration across |
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mail/contacts/calendar/docs. Really to switch back to FOSS I need |
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something with near-feature-parity with Google-everything, because |
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that is already fairly minimalist. |
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There are plenty of things that annoy me with Gmail, and I'd be glad |
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to ditch it in a heartbeat. I've just not found anything I can host |
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myself which is comparable. |
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Rich |