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How can I unsucribe from this mailing list |
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On May 9, 2015 1:25 AM, "Dmitry Yu Okunev" <dyokunev@××××××××.ru> wrote: |
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> 08.05.2015 23:05, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov пишет: |
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>> I had been trying to push the idea of creating an united FOSS community |
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>>> to solve problems of the higher school of the Russian Federation. But |
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>>> such initiatives faded due to absence of support of top executives… And |
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>>> now (according to e.g. [1]) it won't be a problem, IMHO. |
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>>> |
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>> It would. Just because of the fact, that "top executives" (in Education |
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>> Dept, |
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>> in regional ministerys and so on) is that kind of clerks, that WOULDN'T |
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>> accept |
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>> anything if it is impossible to get (read as "steal") some money in |
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>> personal. |
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> The link [1] shows that the _can_ get money in personal. |
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> And I'd prefer |
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>>> make a distribution for the higher shool based on Gentoo Linux. |
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>>> |
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>> I'd also prefer, but it is not that possible as you imagine. There is such |
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>> thing as certification in Federal Security Service (FSB) and so on. |
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> 1. It's not a big problem. We can certify a release of our Gentoo based |
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> distribution. It's just need a money to pay to laboratories. Plus |
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> big universities (like my) have enough social ties to fast push |
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> such things through Russian bureaucracy machines, IMO. And we |
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> can return the spent money the same way as ALT Linux (by selling |
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> tech support coupons). |
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> 2. The Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (ФСТЭК) and |
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> Federal Security Service (ФСБ) certificates required only to process |
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> big systems with personal data (ФЗ-152). For the rest systems (like |
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> ordinal desktop) it's not required at all. |
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> So |
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>>> here's the Question: |
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>>> Does anybody interested in creating a consortium to send an application |
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>>> to the Ministry of Communications? |
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>>> |
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>> I'm partially interested to mentally maintain that, but I have to free |
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>> time to |
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>> activelly do anything in personal (but, probably, will be fine in a |
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>> group). |
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> I just offer to unite efforts. You don't need to free an additional time. |
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> We just need to find common problems and solve it together as a project for |
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> Ministry of Communications. Other good people will connect to us and |
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> meanwhile the support of the ministry will stimulate the top executives. |
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> Specifically, I'm interested in making a distribution for the higher |
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> school of Russian Federation. |
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> But, as I said, I doubt in success of that operation. But... Let the |
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>> Force be |
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>> with us... |
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> There was a lot of doubtable (but good) projects in my life. However few |
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> of them successfully started and completed. I think we _must_ try if we |
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> believe in FOSS. Sorry for this pathos :) |
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> P.S. I'd not use politic-related phrases (like "import software |
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>> substitution") |
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>> in international communities at all and here in particular. |
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> Sorry for that. I was thinking that it's better to make subject more |
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> concrete. |
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> Best regards, Dmitry. |
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