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08.05.2015 23:05, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov пишет: |
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>> I had been trying to push the idea of creating an united FOSS community |
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>> to solve problems of the higher school of the Russian Federation. But |
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>> such initiatives faded due to absence of support of top executives… And |
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>> now (according to e.g. [1]) it won't be a problem, IMHO. |
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> It would. Just because of the fact, that "top executives" (in Education Dept, |
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> in regional ministerys and so on) is that kind of clerks, that WOULDN'T accept |
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> anything if it is impossible to get (read as "steal") some money in personal. |
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The link [1] shows that the _can_ get money in personal. |
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>> And I'd prefer |
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>> make a distribution for the higher shool based on Gentoo Linux. |
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> I'd also prefer, but it is not that possible as you imagine. There is such |
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> thing as certification in Federal Security Service (FSB) and so on. |
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1. It's not a big problem. We can certify a release of our Gentoo based |
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distribution. It's just need a money to pay to laboratories. Plus |
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big universities (like my) have enough social ties to fast push |
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such things through Russian bureaucracy machines, IMO. And we |
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can return the spent money the same way as ALT Linux (by selling |
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tech support coupons). |
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2. The Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (ФСТЭК) and |
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Federal Security Service (ФСБ) certificates required only to process |
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big systems with personal data (ФЗ-152). For the rest systems (like |
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ordinal desktop) it's not required at all. |
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>> So |
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>> here's the Question: |
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>> Does anybody interested in creating a consortium to send an application |
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>> to the Ministry of Communications? |
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> I'm partially interested to mentally maintain that, but I have to free time to |
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> activelly do anything in personal (but, probably, will be fine in a group). |
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I just offer to unite efforts. You don't need to free an additional |
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time. We just need to find common problems and solve it together as a |
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project for Ministry of Communications. Other good people will connect |
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to us and meanwhile the support of the ministry will stimulate the top |
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executives. |
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Specifically, I'm interested in making a distribution for the higher |
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school of Russian Federation. |
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> But, as I said, I doubt in success of that operation. But... Let the Force be |
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> with us... |
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There was a lot of doubtable (but good) projects in my life. However few |
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of them successfully started and completed. I think we _must_ try if we |
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believe in FOSS. Sorry for this pathos :) |
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> P.S. I'd not use politic-related phrases (like "import software substitution") |
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> in international communities at all and here in particular. |
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Sorry for that. I was thinking that it's better to make subject more |
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concrete. |
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Best regards, Dmitry. |
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