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On 09/11/2015 08:03 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: |
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> So, IUSE="X" has generally been used for gui, but more technically |
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> it's used to depend on and build against x11-libs/* packages. The |
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> fact that this gives a GUI is practically a side-effect. When |
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> wayland comes along, do these packages still build against |
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> x11-libs/* to support wayland? |
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> I'm just wondering if we're jumping the gun a little bit on |
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> IUSE="gui".. yes it'll be nice to have one flag that "just works" |
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> for anyone not caring about the details, but it'll also mean |
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> propagating a slew of REQUIRED_USE=" {X,wayland,gtk,qt4,qt5}? ( gui |
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> )" entries and a lot of extra use-defaults which may or may not |
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> cleanup the sub-profiles of desktop/ .... |
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> Also, I believe we need to have the conversation about the pros and |
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> cons of IUSE=gui here before the council meeting, yes? |
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I already use IUSE=gui and will keep doing that. |
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USE flags in gentoo are the best and the worst thing at the same time. |
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They are also mostly the main reason people don't like gentoo, because |
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USE flags are (for todays situation) pretty much not an appropriate |
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pattern to reflect real-world configuration. To be more precise... USE |
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flags are first-class citizens and there is only one layer of them. |
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There's not configuration pattern/abstraction behind them. If you wonder |
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what I am talking about, have a look at NixOS. The reason we lack proper |
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declarative configuration is also the reason we had to introduce this |
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ugliness called REQUIRED_USE. Instead of saying "gui.gtk" we say |
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"REQUIRED_USE="gui? ( || ( gtk ... ) )". And it will get worse. I |
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wonder when people start realizing that. |
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