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On 09/11/2015 01:34 PM, hasufell wrote: |
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> On 09/11/2015 08:03 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: |
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>> So, IUSE="X" has generally been used for gui, but more |
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>> technically it's used to depend on and build against x11-libs/* |
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>> packages. The fact that this gives a GUI is practically a |
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>> side-effect. When wayland comes along, do these packages still |
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>> build against x11-libs/* to support wayland? |
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>> I'm just wondering if we're jumping the gun a little bit on |
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>> IUSE="gui".. yes it'll be nice to have one flag that "just |
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>> works" for anyone not caring about the details, but it'll also |
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>> mean propagating a slew of REQUIRED_USE=" |
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>> {X,wayland,gtk,qt4,qt5}? ( gui )" entries and a lot of extra |
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>> use-defaults which may or may not cleanup the sub-profiles of |
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>> desktop/ .... |
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>> Also, I believe we need to have the conversation about the pros |
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>> and cons of IUSE=gui here before the council meeting, yes? |
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> I already use IUSE=gui and will keep doing that. |
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> USE flags in gentoo are the best and the worst thing at the same |
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> time. They are also mostly the main reason people don't like |
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> gentoo, because USE flags are (for todays situation) pretty much |
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> not an appropriate pattern to reflect real-world configuration. To |
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> be more precise... USE flags are first-class citizens and there is |
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> only one layer of them. There's not configuration |
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> pattern/abstraction behind them. If you wonder what I am talking |
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> about, have a look at NixOS. The reason we lack proper declarative |
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> configuration is also the reason we had to introduce this ugliness |
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> called REQUIRED_USE. Instead of saying "gui.gtk" we say |
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> "REQUIRED_USE="gui? ( || ( gtk ... ) )". And it will get worse. I |
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> wonder when people start realizing that. |
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So are you suggesting maybe we come up with namespaced USE flags? That |
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would be interesting. |
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