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From: Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for gentoostats implementation
Date: Tue, 05 May 2020 00:48:04
Message-Id: fad5f2ed-4c02-d1ea-30ff-8ee1f547ef1b@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ideas for gentoostats implementation by Kent Fredric
1 On 2020-04-26 15:46, Kent Fredric wrote:
2 > On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:38:54 +0200
3 > Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 >> Let's assume we will get reports that app-misc/foo is only installed 20
6 >> times. If you are going to judge based on this data, "Obviously, nobody
7 >> is using that package, it's stuck on <whatever>... safe to remove" your
8 >> view is biased:
9 >
10 > I see this as more like what bloom filters get you, but in reverse:
11 >
12 > [...]
13 >
14 > - But now, instead of having "we don't know if anybody uses this", you
15 > *can* have a "we know for sure somebody uses this".
16
17 But how does that information really help us to decide anything in the end?
18
19 Case A, stats are showing 0 users:
20
21 Like said, we can't know if this is true or if this package is only used
22 in setups where people don't report stats.
23
24
25 Case B, stats are showing x users:
26
27 Now what? Package from case A could have similar users -- we just don't
28 know. Assume firefox has 1.000 users, chromium has 500 users and vivaldi
29 doesn't show up in stats. How does that help us? Would this allow us to
30 skip publishing GLSAs for vivalid because we assume nobody in Gentoo is
31 using vivaldi? Does it allow Python project to go forward pushing a mask
32 for removal in case vivaldi would depend on Python version, Python
33 project want to get rid of? Would this allow Gentoo PR to make a public
34 statement like "Firefox is the most popular browser in Gentoo, twice as
35 users as chromium"?
36
37 Yes it would be a signal but a useless signal, not?
38
39
40 --
41 Regards,
42 Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
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