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Caleb Cushing wrote: |
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>> Your demands because of your feelings of entitlement are what are costing you |
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>> respect. |
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> why do people keep telling me what I feel? anyone else ever notice |
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> feelings don't convey well over text. |
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Well, you spoke of "owing users", and "the right to open a bug and watch for |
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progress reports" combined with this: |
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"right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a |
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privilege and not a responsibility. You think that because you don't get paid |
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that you don't have to do it. I assure you that if you look at most non foss |
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volunteer jobs you either have to do your job or quit. it is the same in open |
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source. perhaps I'm judging you wrongly." -- |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260582#c6 |
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It seems like you want to tell us how to do our jobs. It seems like you think |
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you have the right to tell us what to do. Now, I'm happy to be wrong about those |
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views, but that's what it looks like to me. |
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>> Yes, it's extremely frowned upon to step on another developers toes; Gentoo is |
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>> not a one-man show. Would you like ME to stomp all over your tree? Didn't think so. |
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> that depends on what you mean by 'stomp' if by stomp you mean fix |
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> problems for users, stomp away. if by stomp you mean break stuff, then |
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> no. I don't care if you change something I changed if it's better, |
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> it's better. |
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The point is that you don't know whether someone else has a good judgement of |
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better. People that have been taking care of certain parts of the tree may just |
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know something you don't. This is why we encourage people to talk to maintainers |
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when they touch their packages but also encourage maintainers not to feel too |
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possessive. |
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>> Just so we're clear. I really hope you change your attitude and take Peter |
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>> Alfredsen (loki_val) up on his generous offer. |
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> and my attitude is? what is it that you think I think? |
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I've answered that above. |
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> I may take him up. but I'm also considering the possible conflict of |
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> interest, as well as the additional time requirement. I hope you |
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> understand. even if I do I have a commitment to what I've already |
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> started. |
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On your blog[1] you imply that if you decide to not, that you wouldn't be able |
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to "to talk to people to understand something". I just want to stress that this |
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is not so. Many of us are available on #gentoo-dev-help and this mailing list |
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for technical questions. |
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Marijn |
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[1]:http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/03/to-gentoo-dev-or-not-to-gentoo-dev.html |
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- -- |
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Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. |
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Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML |
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<http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode |
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